Host Jamie McGoldrick speaks with Charles Petrie, a former UN assistant secretary general with more than three decades of experience in conflict and post-conflict settings. Charles’ book, The Triumph of Evil – The Rwanda Genocide and the Search for Justice, is based on his personal eye-witness accounts while working for the UN in the country during the genocide. It’s available on Amazon, at Barnes & Noble, and wherever books are sold. They discuss the situation in Gaza, and the failure of international and humanitarian law. After that, the conversation focuses on Myanmar. Charles worked in the nation for the UN and continues to cover the humanitarian crisis there. He describes the situation on the ground, with the economy struggling and a lack of leadership. Jamie asks Charles about the Rohingya refugees, a crisis which they both agree does not have an easy solution. Charles says one of his biggest disappointments about the situation in Myanmar is the lack of global concern. He argues for more awareness of the situation which would put pressure on international organizations, such as the UN, to do more to address the crisis.